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Alastair McIntosh Sharing - Learning from the crisis - Shared screen with speaker view
Michael Newton
39:45
Can use the chat box
jenstout
40:01
I’d like to ask a quick question?
Gehan Macleod
40:03
Can we do a quick go round
Gehan Macleod
40:24
saying your name and where you’re calling from and whether there is a lockdown where you are?
Andrew Curry
45:09
Or people could just introduce each other in the chat?
jenstout
45:20
I agree - introduce ourselves in the chat?
Andrew Curry
45:47
I’m Andrew curry, futurist based in London.
Rachele Cavina
47:01
I'm Rachele Cavina, studying a master in Design for Change at the University of Edinburgh, and currently in Edinburgh but I am from Bologna, Italy
Gehan Macleod
47:03
Gehan, Glasgow
Chigozie Ofor
47:32
I’m Chigozie, Design for Change student at Uni of Edinburgh, background in Architecture
jenstout
47:43
I’m Jen Stout, a writer and journalist from Shetland, but living in Glasgow. Currently in lockdown in Partick, dreaming of the sea.
Gehan Macleod
47:55
Sue have you heard of disaster collectivism? https://www.shareable.net/disaster-collectivism-how-communities-rise-together-to-respond-to-crises/
faithbiddle
47:55
I’m Faith and i’m working with the world office of Quakers on their sustainability work. http://fwcc.world/sustainability . I’m based in London but currently in Manchester for lockdown.
Janet Law
48:43
I'm retired and live in rural Scotland
katylawrence
48:51
I’m Katy studying a Masters in Environmental Politics at the University of Edinburgh.
Carmen Valenzuela
49:06
Carmen Valenzuela, Design for Change student Edinburgh Uni, with a background in Product design. Currently in Edinburgh, but from I am Guatemala
Blessing
49:44
Blessing, studying Environment and Development, Edinburgh
Muthia
49:47
Hi. I’m Muthia, postgrad student at the University of Glasgow.
Michael Newton
50:45
Another of my concerns is that we must limit our actions and effects of our actions – what is the purpose and meaning of freedom at such environmental and social costs – but that govts will certainly take advantage of these conditions to limit personal freedoms.
John Anderson
50:51
Good day, all. John Anderson, Minnesota, USA. I work in agriculture, forages.
Laura Nicolson
51:08
i’m laura (nicolson), living in inverness, working for a gaelic music organisation with a strong interest in building community where i am
katylawrence
52:08
Did someone from here say they were from Shetland?
KaChina Davine
53:12
KaChina in Asheville. strong concerns in the direction and choices we have ahead of us.
laurahope-gill
54:34
Mort thoughts?
laurahope-gill
54:39
OOps! More!
John Anderson
57:30
Such isolation/void we feel - how can we be catalysts for "community"?
Gehan Macleod
57:45
lovely question!
Sue Garner
57:49
interestingly Nixon came very close to introducing universal income in US in 1960s
jenstout
58:02
Aware I’ve already spoken but if there’s room I’ve another question!
Michael Newton
58:29
Trump & co can easily spin this into a form of scapegoating and nationalism
Gehan Macleod
58:37
UBI is not on offer yet - it’s something that could offer genuine security….
Gehan Macleod
58:43
and structural change
Sue Garner
58:49
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/05/richard-nixon-ubi-basic-income-welfare/
Andrew Curry
59:27
Also striking that unlike climate change most of the countries most affected earliest are the richer countries not thee poorest.
Michael Newton
59:52
A warning about Trumpism (with obvious parallels elsewhere) exploiting this for scapegoating is here: https://nonzero.org/post/red-virus-blue-virus
Rachele Cavina
01:00:10
I have a comment
jenstout
01:01:31
Laura, could I respond to this current question?
Janet Law
01:02:00
I like what Gehan is saying
Gehan Macleod
01:03:13
@jenstout and that I think is what a UBI could support
Gehan Macleod
01:03:24
the power of embodied experience!!
laurahope-gill
01:04:39
Rachel Cavina—next!
laurahope-gill
01:05:03
Andrew Curry after Rachel?
Andrew Curry
01:06:06
I don’t need to speak again.
Gehan Macleod
01:06:08
I would also want to add something about privilege/class too - my friend could hear domestic abuse taking place upstairs from her last night
laurahope-gill
01:06:26
Please, Gehan. Yes.
laurahope-gill
01:06:37
Please join after Rachel.
Gehan Macleod
01:06:47
Not that domestic abuse is confined to some classes… but it’s worth remembering
laurahope-gill
01:07:27
All is intersectional.
Andrew Curry
01:16:07
I liked the Jungian male/female discussion from Laura earlier. Referencing Michael, although bad actors will try to take advantage, those ultra-male authoritarians are having a mixed crisis at the moment (e.g. Bolsonaro’s rhetoric producing strong and hostile response in Brazil(.
faithbiddle
01:16:30
i am going to have to leave but thank you all for the thoughts and reflections. You’ve given me more to think about and ideas to move forward in the strange times.
laurahope-gill
01:18:03
Thanks. T.Huxley says the limits of capitalism are natural resources and ethics. Climate is the natural resources. Covid is ethics.
Michael Newton
01:18:04
Roisin
Gehan Macleod
01:18:15
Hi Roisin!
Jadwiga McKay
01:21:57
Good point. My healthcare providers are not wearing masks though other measures are taken. (Just a quick note for chat.)
Gehan Macleod
01:27:27
Funding a UBI: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/mar/18/universal-basic-income-could-be-covered-reversing-welfare-spending-cuts-plan-uk
katylawrence
01:27:51
Would be interested in using chapters as point of reference for discussion.
jenstout
01:28:38
Yes Katy, me too - I’m returning to Spiritual Activism and similar books and would be keen to talk through this a bit in the coming days/weeks.
Alastair McIntosh
01:29:23
mail@alastairmcintosh.com @alastairmci
Joanna Boehnert
01:30:21
Hello I am Joanna a design theorist @EcoLabs thank you so much Alastair! ;-)
Michael Newton
01:30:25
Thank you so much! Virtual community is better than none!
Andrew Curry
01:30:39
Just to say thanks for the time and the contributions.
Jadwiga McKay
01:30:53
I was late to join but am grateful for the talk.
Gehan Macleod
01:31:17
Agree… thank you, spaces such as this and discussion are important in these times.
John Anderson
01:31:48
Thank you!! Bye everyone. JA
KaChina Davine
01:32:15
thank you!
laurahope-gill
01:32:27
Yes, Thank you!
Janet Law
01:32:30
Thank you
Laura Nicolson
01:32:32
thank you all, i am very grateful for the space and ideas and would love to join again
nelpilgrim-rukavina
01:32:42
Thank you!
Carmen Valenzuela
01:33:01
Thank you!
Rachele Cavina
01:33:05
Thank you it was a great conversation! Definitely keen to join more of these virtual conversations
Chigozie Ofor
01:33:19
Thank you Alastair…thank you all
Cara's iPhone
01:33:41
thank you!
Sue Garner
01:36:17
sorry. can't hear you just want to copy some links before they get deleted
Sue Garner
01:37:24
think they may have already been lost for me. if there is any way of keeping a record of chat that would be great thanks.
Michael Newton
01:40:20
https://hiddenglen.org/2020/03/24/cultural-fragility-and-what-really-matters/